Towards the end of the movie, right after Venom has a mysterious change of heart, it confesses to Eddie that they are similar in many ways. Venom needn’t have been concerned, however, as for once in this article, we’re looking at a symbiote that’s actually a good guy. Though Tony got rid of the armor when he returned to his normal self, the development of the suit proves that harnessing the power of Venom without the symbiote is possible. If you're basically an inanimate object, you can't be stronger than Venom, right? She loves cats, coffee and contemplation and goes by the pronouns she/her/hers. SSS13: And Pennywise, The Demon stalker of Derry. Yes, this symbiote is as ridiculous as its name sounds. Despite fans seemingly wanting nothing more than to find out who would win in a fight between the heroes of Marvel and DC, the crossover itself was not as great as you would expect it to be. It could also absorb chemicals like Spider-Man’s artificial webbing with ease. Scream was identifiable by her bright yellow and red “costume” and shock of red symbiotic “hair.” Much like Medusa of the Inhumans, Scream used her “hair” as a weapon, wrapping it around her enemies and using it offensively. When Devos clashed with the Fantastic Four, his ship crashed in the jungle causing the alien mass to escape. However, the Venom symbiote was not dead, merely incapacitated for a time, and after it recovered it sought Eddie out and re-bonded with hi… Patrick Mulligan became the host, infected by Carnage as he was too weak to kill it, wanting it to grow so it could kill it later. The symbiote's story is so ridiculous that it's hard to repeat: Marcus is actually a cyborg from ancient Greece who was not only bitten by the creature who gave him his werewolf identity, but also possessed by a symbiote. Literally. See, there have been several occasions where evil corporations have attempted to clone the symbiote in order to facilitate their twisted plans. The clone proved to be highly unstable, ending every human it encountered and bonding to Patricia Robertson in order to become the second She-Venom. The first symbiote to follow in Venom’s footsteps, Carnage is the example of what happens when a symbiote bonds with the most vile human being on the planet. 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And These two are the perfect examples of these afflections. ... Lasher, Scream, and Riot. Venom and riot vs carnage trailer - Duration: 0:11. While other symbiotes have demonstrated this desire too, Zzzxx feeds off brains exclusively. While Hybrid might not sound like a terror-inducing name, consider this: the creature is a composition of the four Life Foundation symbiotes Agony, Riot, Phage and Lasher, who all bonded to host Scott Washington. The only way that Venom could take Phage and company down was with the aid of Spider-Man and some cool gadgetry. It turns out that Bob is descended from a colony of robot alien spiders that want to eliminate all life on Earth (because of course he is), and he clones Venom from a portion of the symbiote’s tongue. The host, of course, is another factor that helps determine the level of heat that a symbiote will bring to a fight, so keep that in mind while considering these 16 Symbiotes More Powerful Than Venom (And 9 Weaker). She underwent physical enhancement in the form of being bonded with one of the symbiotes that were forcibly spawned from Venom against his will. Even after being defeated as a part of the being Hybrid, Lasher lived on in the form of the War Dog, who worked for the U. S. Army. Carnage is like a … Carnage began his story of what he is. When Carnage escapes from his cell, he looks set to cause, well, carnage, until The Sentry reveals himself and flies the symbiote into space, ripping him in half and showing just how powerful he is. Lasher, one of the five symbiotes, hosted by Ramon Hernandez, was different to the others in that it manifested its powers in the form of tentacles on his back. The parasite was fearsome enough but it quickly met its own doom when Jubulile van Scotter absorbed it as part of a plan to take out its own creator, Carnage. ZZZXX might sound like a literal snooze-fest, but the symbiote is actually listed as one of the most dangerous beings in the entire galaxy by the Shi’ar Empire. Not only was Krobaa not as dangerous as Venom in his original mission, which was to pretty much explore space rather than ebd as many lives as possible, but he also only had once appearance, in Venom: Seed of Darkness, and a weakness to light, of all things. Oh and he has robot legs. Interestingly, Carnage was originally to be included in an early script, but this idea is scrapped with Riot as one of the main antagonists. The symbiote may have technically been a sword in form, but it was still made from living darkness and able to corrupt its bearer to commit dastardly deeds to the point of executing anyone within range. For the uninitiated, Marvel 2099 was exactly what it sounds like: an imprint that looked at the Marvel universe in the far-off future of 2099. Designated as a perfect warrior by Dracula himself, Marcus is recruited into the Dark Lord’s undead army, and it’s clear to see why. “Toon-Style” basically meant he could fight like Roger Rabbit or Daffy Duck, with all of the ridiculous, physics-defying imagery that conjures up. Between that and his ridiculous name, Bizarnage just wasn't the nightmare-inducing villain that is Carnage. Zzzxx’s final fate was sealed when the galaxy fought against the Fault, a tear in the fabric of space between the regular universe and the hell-dimension of the Cancerverse. In addition, Riot is the main villain in the motion picture Venom starring Tom Hardy in Sony’s Marvel movie universe. After a brief time where he became suicidal, he started to do good with his remaining years, working for the food bank F.E.A.S.T., run by Mr. Li. After Mister Negative cures Eddie of his cancer, his powers mix with what remained of the symbiote in his body. Some people say that Carnage is physically superior to Venom but he can use his rage to overpower Carnage. That made it a fabulous weapon against the creatures of the Cancerverse, which is where the Starjammers shot the symbiote. From reading The Beano and The Dandy as a child, he first discovered American comics with Marvel's Heroes Reborn and, despite that questionable start, still fell in love and has never looked back. The hype for 2018’s Venom movie is now well underway, with a trailer, cast list and poster giving us the best look we’ve had of the Tom Hardy led picture than we’ve had before. Mayhem only exists in a 1998 "What If?" The story is one of the most compelling of the symbiotes: Not only is Kron Stone the dark and twisted half-brother to Spidey and the person who took out The Punisher's family in this world, but he's also possessed by the symbiote just before taking his own final breath. He can lift over 50 tons , and he never seems to tire. The danger of a symbiote, an amorphous alien creature who bonds with its host, isn't just the symbiote's own powers but the magnification of its hosts darkest qualities and desires. Subjected to a hostile takeover and a test that went wrong, Peter and Eddie’s parents were killed. It wasn’t until years later that Peter, and subsequently Eddie, were exposed to be a twisted version of the original suit, one that often went out of control with violence and cannibalistic carnage. Born when the Venom symbiote left a part of itself behind, this offspring bonded with Cletus Kasady and a venomous killer with no morality was born. While this new direction wasn’t entirely loved by fans, one of the biggest success stories was Ultimate Spider-Man. Dreadface announces that he travels from world to world possessing the greatest warriors there and then causing untold devastation. An archenemy of Venom, Carnage has been used by both Norman and Normie Osborn, transforming the men into the brutal Red Goblin. SSS13: I'm SSS13 and it's my job to analyze their weapons, armor and skills to find out who whould win a DEATH BATTLE! It would have been interesting to see what Agony could have done with the powers she absorbed before the symbiote Scream took her out. Her body is also entirely malleable, making her a formidable foe. Carnage was designed as a far more dangerous, more powerful and all-round scarier Spider-Man villain than readers had ever seen before. As a reverse to the regular Klyntar symbiotes, Anti-Venom is immune to sound, fire or heat based attacks. So, it's pretty close, but it has been stated that Carnage is stronger than Venom. A spoiled brat, Kron Stone was a dark and twisted individual from a young age, tormenting and beating up a young Miguel. Given that Mania is a part of Venom, you might have heard of him, as he's the clone made from Venom's own tongue in Venom #31. It would use these tendrils to “lash” out at its opponents, hence the name. If Tony Stark develops a symbitic suit, you had better believe it could take on Venom. The kind of spawn that an evil, twisted demon like Carnage would create, however, was enough to scare Venom into trying to protect and raise the upcoming spawn himself, especially since Carnage was determined to kill his “child.” Venom had also figured out that this new symbiote would have been the 1000th in their line, and was concerned over genetic degradation. He is also stronger than both Venom and Carnage combined. It does share some similarities, however, including the aversion to fire, which is how Thing is able to defeat Dreadface. It’s not yet clear just how Eddie and the symbiote will come together, but there’s no doubt that we’ll see the birth of Venom. She had a change of heart following these events and dedicated her life to helping the hosts of symbiotes cope with their new life, until her death at the hands of -- ironically -- Venom, when he began hunting symbiotes himself. Also known as Venom 2099, Kron Stone is something out of your worst nightmares. The Marvel vs. DC event may have given fans a few answers to their "what if" questions regarding what might happen if the two worlds clashed for a few issues, but it also gave us some pretty weak versions of our favorite characters. Riot, who latched onto a security guard well trained in armed and hand-to-hand combat as his host, made … Going by the name Agony, the newly bonded symbiote was bright purple and black, with sharp claws and teeth and a shock of long purple hair. Bizarnage talked like Bizarro but acted more like Carnage, which just wasn't something we could take seriously given how closely he resembled a sleek abominable snowman. This is the story that leads to Deadpool being the one that ties the Knot with Shiklah, and while the marriage doesn’t last that long, for a while there, Wade Wilson is a happily married man. Seeing a mutual hatred in Brock, it bonded with the disgraced journalist to create the villain Ven… Riot has changed color more than perhaps any of other symbiotes, being grey originally and then brown, until later on becoming dark blue. His conquest is being revealed in the 2018 series Venomized. Let’s start with our main man first, Venom. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Then again, after that Spidey song-and-dance number from Spider-Man 3, maybe it wasn't as cringe-worthy as other moments of Spiderhood. You can find him on Twitter @MattLune. She was so popular that she made the jump to her own series and her own universe, the MC2. It's also because unlike other beings from Klyntar, ZZZXX actually feeds off its host's brain. Kron Stone was the older half-brother of Miguel, as they both shared the same father in Tyler Stone, the Executive Vice President of the all-powerful Alchemax Corporation. In the story, Spectre, from the DC Universe, merged with the Living Tribunal of the Marvel Universe, and a new, combined, Amalgam universe was born. It bonds with a gorilla and it becomes clear that the alien fills its hosts with a savage energy, causing it to attack the Fantastic Four. Spider-Man and Venom had to work together to take Carnage down. Once they have come into contact with a symbiote, they form a permanent bond that consumes both symbiote and host, assimilating them fully into one being. In a 1998 issue of What If (issue 105 - “Legacy...in Black and White”), creators Tom Defalco and Ron Frenz explored what exactly happened in an alternate universe tale that saw a 15 year-old May Parker becoming the new Spider-Girl. First introduced in 2008's True Believers, Payback is a symbiote who leads a more functional life as the leader of the True Believers themselves. The symbiote was another experiment developed from the Life Foundation against Venom's will and its host, Leslie Gesneria, a willing subject to the evil experiment. Toxin proved to be so much more powerful than both Carnage and Venom that the two wanted to take him out together, but Spidey, who saw the good beneath the power, helped Mulligan use his symbiote to fight more nefarious versions of his own kind. Following that, Zzzxx, as a member of Vulcan’s Imperial Guardsman was sent after the Starjammers, the team of intergalactic pirates led by Vulcan’s father Corsair. Although some Marvel media has previously touched upon symbiotes, most notably the third and worst installment of Sam Raimi's Spider-Man series, this week we'll get to see an entire film devoted to Venom, one of the most popular symbiotes. The New Avengers series kicked off in a big way, with a supervillain prison breakout from The Raft, causing a ragtag team of heroes to come together to stop them. Far stronger than the Regeneration of a symbiote. As soon as they were “born,” the Guardian Symbiotes were tasked with attacking Spider-Man, who’d tracked down the Life Foundation’s facility. He was immune to this disease that they call, The Melting. As insane as Carnage was, his "brother," Riot, was one of the most dangerous of the Guardian Symbiotes of the Life Foundation's creations. The Carnage symbiote used Dr. Nieves to escape from Michael Hall and then abandoned her once it had rescued Cletus Kasady. Excerpt Listed as one of the five most dangerous criminals in the Galaxy by the Shi'ar Empire, Zzzxx -- the villain with the name that sounds like a bug hitting an electric light -- was discovered by the Emperor D’Ken and later chosen by the villainous new Emperor Vulcan to serve in his Imperial Guard. As Toxin's powers began to manifest and grow, Carnage and Venom allied together to destroy it but failed in their attempt. He might spawn from the idea that Carnage should make more mini Carnages, but in reality he just presented a complicated situation for his host, Patrick Mulligan, a virtuous cop who tried to do right by his newfound powers. Despite the fact that she may be a bit cooler than Venom, he could probably take her in a fight. The Agony symbiote survived along with the others, despite the deaths of their hosts, and was captured and experimented on in The Vault, the maximum security prison in the Rockies. Looking a little bit like a white, jagged version of Venom/Carnage, the only relation to Bizarro is the way he talks and the fact that its color palette is inverted. Its inception was a part of the Darkhold practice involving the evil Elder God, Chthon, and while it was visually striking, the ritual ultimately proved fruitless, as many plots are wont to do. Especially when Ultimatum rolled around and characters started dying in the most gruesome ways, the Ultimate line of comics really established itself as a world in which anything can happen and anyone can die. Instead, Carnage implanted Toxin into Patrick Mulligan, a police officer who vowed to become a hero and use Toxin to fight crime. Spoiler alert: he wasn't, which is why Scream got the upper hand on all of them, but the orange and black symbiote was not only a natural mascot for Halloween but also the embodiment of knife mutation, able to make the weapons out of his own body, which was quite formidable. With all of the apocalyptic fiction out there, along with the general state of the world we live in, The Life Foundation doesn’t sound so crazy at first. Needing a superhuman police force to protect this Utopian future, the Foundation's leader Carlton Drake saw the potential to create these future guardians in the unborn offspring of Venom (the Symbiote bonded t… Not only do The Poisons take on the powers of their hosts, but they can also transform their hosts into weapons to use and carry out inter-dimensional travel. Black Suit Spider-Man probably could have been as strong or stronger than Brock-as-Venom, but he held himself back (even if the influence of the symbiote meant he didn't hold back as much as he would have/should have otherwise, it didn't … Vulcan gave him a Shi’ar host to consume, and it was discovered that Zzzxx is vastly different from other Klyntars, in that it is a monstrosity that feeds off its host’s brains. Anti-Venom's resistance to fire, sound and heat is the opposite of the weaknesses of other symbiotes from Klyntar. The way Riot rips Venom out of Eddie Brock was a reference the cover art of Venom: Carnage Unleashed #3, where Carnage is doing the same thing. true,but Brock did by either being smarter,more skilled or PIS,Carnage is stronger than Spider-Man AND Venom combined Gargan? Kasady was a serial killer, and planned on stabbing Brock when he least expected … One of the most powerful and scariest symbiotes in existence, Scream began, as several other symbiotes listed here began, as a project of the Life Foundation. Created by Peter Parker and Eddie Brock's father in another reality, this Venom has almost no weaknesses, though his Achilles heel is electricity. As the maniacal Carnage, Kasady has been killed multiple times over the years, but he always finds a way to come back, stronger than ever. She became Flash’s sidekick of sorts, aiding him in his adventures and becoming generally good, if sometimes corrupt. Once van Scotter banished Chthon, Raze and the rest of the symbiotes she'd absorbed were done for, but Raze demonstrated a level of Carnage's power that may have been able to defeat Venom. He first appeared in Deadpool: The Gauntlet, a digital-first series that sees the Merc With a Mouth hired by Dracula to track down his future bride, Shiklah. Anti-Venom didn't last long for Brock, but eventually became the ward of Flash Thompson. Agony’s unique abilities were centered around acid generation, as it was able to spit acid that could burn through most substances. Granted, it went after Spider-Ham, AKA Peter Porker, in the Aniverse, where all of the superheroes turned into animals... which means that the symbiote was doomed to the bottom of the supervillain bin from the start. The resulting creation, named Mania, was a violent, sadistic creature that refused to bond with any host, choosing instead to slaughter anyone that comes into contact with it. There's a reason Carnage was given a much more hostile name than venom: the symbiote is a bigger concern. Perhaps the ludicrousness of this creature is better explained by his first appearance, which was in Deadpool: The Gauntlet. Unbeknown to her, Carnage had left its offspring within her arm. I would think that Carnage is stronger than Venom, but Venom has been known to over power Carnage by himself on Carnage's own ground on a few occasions as well. Once again, Zzzxx failed and was imprisoned on the Starjammer. You’d be forgiven for thinking that Venom is the only symbiote in the Marvel universe, but you’d be wrong. A one-stop shop for all things video games. That's likely partly because it took on a Shi'ar host, much to the disgust of the Empire, and its ultimate goal was to latch onto Lilandra Neramani herself. The origins of Anti-Venom are a little complicated. First appearing in Fantastic Four #360, Dreadface has all of the appearances of being a Klyntar symbiote in all but name; however, there were some distinct differences that set him apart. With the character ready to target the entire Marvel Universe in Absolute Carnage , CBR is taking a look back at the history of Carnage's powers and just how he became so much stronger than Venom. Venom is a powerful entity, a being that reeks of pure id and while we can't wait to see how Tom Hardy handles the symbiotic relationship between the extraterrestrial and Eddie Brock, its human host, we also know that Venom is only one among many symbiotes over the years. From the wince-worthy to the scary, the messy blobs to the sleek and evolved, these symbiotes could either take on Venom or perish trying. A more apt title might be Symbiotic Amalgamation of Doom. They were first discovered by an alternate universe version of Doctor Strange that was infected by a symbiote. Even though he was able to take her down, we think that given her Medusa-like hair and ruthlessness she might have been able to defeat Venom with a stronger host. As soon as it was realized that Venom could spawn Carnage, however, it seemed fairly logical that at some point a story revolving around Carnage “giving birth” would be told. As it turns out, Mr. Li was actually the super-villain Mister Negative! Sara likes to write about her favorite fandoms, ranging from Marvel and Saga to Doctor Who and Jim Henson. Carnage is a vicious, powerful symbiote created through enhancing samples of the original Venom symbiote, originating from Marvel Comics. Her abilities are also unique in that they manifest during times of sheer happiness, another side effect of her evolution. Lone Silent 38,023 views. Since it's a hybrid, not a parasite, it also doesn't carry Venom's weaknesses, either, making it more indomitable. They are so powerful that Thanos himself was their leader. Phage was identifiable from the rest of the Guardian Symbiotes by its orange and black coloring, and his preference for transforming his body into knifes. In many ways, Anti-Venom, which developed after Eddie Brock realized that he had cancer, truly is the opposite of Venom. After Hernandez was killed, Lasher and the other symbiotes formed one united being called Hybrid. It took a lot for Brock to defeat Scream, who ended up being attached to an insane host, Donna Diego, who decided to take out all symbiotes. While the mission itself was a failure, the symbiote bonded to Raza Longknife in an attempt to get close to its true goal, Lilandra. Just google the story and Anti Venom is stronger than Carnage and Venom. It stands to reason that someone dubbed Ultimate Venom might be a bit more powerful than the original Venom and that's a big understatement. She wasn't the original leader of the team but her powers, greater than all of the other symbiotes, earned her the top billing spot pretty quickly. Marcus is a cyborg Centaur from ancient Greece bitten by a werewolf and possessed by a symbiote. Able to lift (press) over 35-45 tons originally. Appearing in only one issue of Venom: Seed of Darkness, Krobaa was a scout from his homeworld on a mission of exploration, making him one of the only symbiotes on this list that wasn’t originally created from the Venom symbiote. This fear was never more fully realized than with Riot, by far the most violent of the Guardian Symbiotes the Life Foundation created. Venom is easily stronger than Carnage. It all started with Eddie Brock discovering that he was suffering from adrenal cancer. As Mary Jane gave birth, it was announced that she had tragically miscarried, only for the baby to be stolen away by a spy of Norman Osborn’s, and smuggled away on a boat to who knows where. His short appearance shows him being thwarted by Spider-Boy, the Amalgam of Superboy and Spider-Man. The creatures aren't even limited to Spider-Man comics, although they do turn up quite a bit in Peter Parker's world and, while some of them show just how incredibly powerful Venom is, others sort of put the monstrous parasite to shame, depicting how strong a symbiote can often be with the right host or set of abilities. As tough as Hybrid was, Venom, as Eddie Brock, hunted him down and took him out in an attempt to rid the world of nefarious symbiotes. The alter-ego of Peter Porker (“Am I a spider with the limitations of a pig? Venom is pretty much the standard symbiote, the one that most of us know best. Goopy and goofy-looking, Krobaa appears to belong in a campy episode of Tales From the Crypt than in our nightmares. This article first appeared in the St. Louis Beacon, Jan. 12, 2012 - Meryl Streep gives an extraordinary performance as Margaret Thatcher in "The Iron Lady What was great (in a completely bonkers kind of way) was what followed. The planet, Carkan was a dangerous planet to live in. The only thing keeping him alive was the Venom symbiote, but that no longer wanted him in his terminally ill state, so in a moment of spiritual awakening, Eddie decided to sell off the symbiote to the highest bidder so that he could die in dignity. He may not sound as intimidating as Venom, but Lasher, one of the Life Foundation's five Venom seedlings spawned in order to protect its members from chaos at the end of the world, has actual tentacles. Yes. agent Mavis Trent, she uses her more evolved powers for good. He originated as a slimy black mass that was kept in a cube aboard the ship of villain Devos the Devastator. One such occasion was initiated by the Ararat Corporation, led by the nefarious-yet-mundane sounding Bob. They became capable of interdimensional travel thanks to a poisoned Doctor Doom. All-Black The Necrosword was forged from the shadow of an evil god. The movie centers around Eddie Brock (played by Hardy), a local reporter who, in the comics, gets infected with the alien symbiote after Spider-Man manages to successfully extricate himself from it. Peter rejected the power, but Eddie embraced it, becoming the Ultimate Venom. Created by David Michelinie and Ron Lim in 1993, Riot and the rest of the Guardian Symbiotes made their first appearance in the Venom: Lethal Protector series which, coincidentally, was the first solo outing for Spider-Man’s frequent antagonist. A centaur werewolf sounds like something J.K. Rowling came up with while drinking and giving him the name Marcus really doesn't improve things much. 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